Penis Enlargement Products and Forum

[Penox]

Starting Stats / Started on 7-23-2009
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BPEL = 5.875"
EG = 4.375"
PV = 8.949


Week 1 Gram Hours = 12,000 - "End of Week 1 Gains <BPEL = same, EG = 4.43>
Week 2 Gram Hours = 7,200 - "End of Week 2 Gains <BPEL = 6, EG = 4.50>
Week 3 Gram Hours = 8,850 - "No Measurements"
Week 4 Gram Hours = 7,650 - "End of Week 4 Gains <BPEL = 6.25, EG = 4.687>

Week 5 Gram Hours = 0 - "No Measurements"
Week 6 Gram Hours = 5,400 - "No Measurements"
Week 7 Gram Hours = 6,300 - "No Measurements"
Week 8 Gram Hours = 5,400 - "End of Week 8 gains <BPEL = 6.25, EG = 4.5>"

Week 9 Gram Hours = 16,000- "No Measurements"
Week 10 Gram Hours = 12,400- "Same <BPEL = 6.25, EG = 4.5>"
Week 11 Gram Hours = 12,000- "<BPEL = 6.50, EG = 4.6, PV = 10.945>"
Week 12 Gram Hours = 12,800- "<BPEL = 6.50, EG = 4.6, PV = 10.945>

Week 13 Gram Hours = 19,200- "<BPEL = 6.50, EG = 4.5, PV = unknown>
Week 14 Gram Hours = 14.400- "<BPEL = uknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 15 Gram Hours = 10,400- "<BPEL = 6.50, EG = 4.5, PV = unknown>
Week 16 Gram Hours = 12,000- "<BPEL =6.625, EG = 4.6, PV = 11.161>

Week 17 Gram Hours = 16,000- "<BPEL =6.625, EG = 4.6, PV = 11.161>
Week 18 Gram Hours = 8,000 - "<BPEL =6.625, EG = 4.6, PV = 11.161>
Week 19 Gram Hours = 9,600 - "<BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 20 Gram Hours = 8,000 - "<BPEL = 6.75, EG = 4.6, PV = 11.366>

Week 21 Gram Hours = 12,800 - "<BPEL = 6.75, EG = 4.6, PV = 11.366>
Week 22 Gram Hours = 6,400 - "<BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 23 Gram Hours = 11,200 - "<BPEL = 6.75, EG = 4.6, PV = 11.366>
Week 24 Gram Hours = 9,600 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>

Week 25 Gram Hours = 8,000 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 26 Gram Hours = 11,200 - <BPEL =unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 27 Gram Hours = 11,200 - <BPEL = 6.75, EG = 4.6, PV = 11.366>
Week 28 Gram Hours = 19,200 - <BPEL = 6.75, EG = 4.6, PV = 11.366>

Week 29 Gram Hours = 16,000 - <BPEL =unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 30 Gram Hours = 12,800 - <BPEL =unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 31 Gram Hours = 17,600 - <BPEL = 6.75, EG = 4.6, PV = 11.336>
Week 32 Gram Hours = 6,400 - <BPEL = 6.75, EG = 4.6, PV =11.336>

Week 33 Gram Hours = 19,200 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 34 Gram Hours = 11,200 - <BPEL = 6.8125, EG = 4.6, PV = 11.471>
Week 35 Gram Hours = 6,400 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 36 Gram Hours = 0,000 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>

Week 37 Gram Hours = 0,000 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 38 Gram Hours = 0,000 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 39 Gram Hours = 0,000 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 40 Gram Hours = 0,000 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>

Week 41 Gram Hours = 0,000 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 42 Gram Hours = 0,000 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 43 Gram Hours = 0,000 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 44 Gram Hours = 0,000 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>

Week 45 Gram Hours = 0,000 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 46 Gram Hours = 0,000 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 47 Gram Hours = 0,000 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>
Week 48 Gram Hours = 0,000 - <BPEL = unknown, EG = unknown, PV = unknown>

Week 49 Gram Hours = 0,000 - <BPEL = 7 , EG = 4.6, PV = 11.787>

Currently doing other forms of PE until my wife's break schedule is predictable enough I can't get caught with the extender on. Once I have to breaks pegged I'll start using the extender.

I finally got a good accurate measurement "only length only" I am currently patting myself on the back for graduating into the 7" club. =)

[treetop]

Hey Penox,
Welcome. I am somewhat of a number cruncher also.
My advice is following the instructions as far as time and tension, start slow and work up.
Recommended:
Week Hrs Tension
2 2 900
3 3 1000
4 2 1000
5 3 1200
6 4 1200
7 4 1200
8+ 6 1200
I actually progressed a little faster then this, but now over 9 weeks I have found that I can do a lot more with comfort.
My posts are here:
http://penisenlargementproducts.org/forum/x4labs-penis-extender-support/personal-log-will-update-every-week-t2866.html

My pics are here: (you can’t post pics on this site)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/treetopx4lpics/

And I also started a group we can all contribute too and also have discussions on.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/pe/

Also, I have shared my spreadsheets here:
http://www.4shared.com/account/dir/16052913/c22639ba/sharing.html?rnd=57
Welcome and good luck with your gains. I look forward to following your progress.
TT

[treetop]

Hey, my two cents on your wife... She may be more correct then you give her credit. My wife was that way also after having children. Our last child actually caused some damage because he was born so fast, 7 contractions and out he came. Anyway, the doctor had to do some minor surgery to fix the muscles, etc. But it's common with women who have had children.

Still, I started below the 6" mark, and I want 7 to 7.5". I am a little worried that it may be too much though. But for now, I don't have to worry about that. I have lots of girth, so only care about length.

A couple more sites for you to check out.

Thunders is doing measurement by volume now. I am going to adopt this and call it PV or Penis Volume.
I am also a member there.
http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=54767

This site is results of a poll of what size women want the most. Not sure how accurate it is, but it is interesting data for us number crunchers.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/16/penis-size-preference-cha_n_107433.html
TT

[Penox]

I get to order it this weekend, I'm excited!

After reading several post this is what I'm going to try.

10 hour days, 5 days a week.
Warm up
Lotion, lotion, lotion.

Before I start I'll warm it up with hot rags, manually stretch it some. Then lotion it up. I believe the lotion will "help" in preventing any stretch marks or tears. My wife put lotion on her belly daily and the Drs credit that for her getting zero stretch marks for as big as she got.

I plan on every 2 hours to take it off, warm it up, lotion and re-apply the extender. I also "plan" on pulling some skin through the bottom of the extender, I believe this will help on stretching and making the fat pad infront of the pubic bone puffier or larger. This may be harder than I realize, i haven't got to use it yet.

Thanks for the links and the advice guys, I got my rulers and camera's ready. How long does it take to arrive once you ordered?

[treetop]

It took about a week for mine I believe.
You may re-think the lotion. If your penis is slippery, then you won't get the strap to hold I don't think.

Also, as for the skin, that is what I am doing also. I am actually moving my balls through the base almost like a cock ring because before doing that I was stretching the skin above my penis too much. Now the base sits direct on my pubic bone and I get a better internal stretch.
TT

[Penox]

That is good to know about putting the skin through, I was hoping that would work. Also is there a way to edit my post? Once I get it in the mail I would rather just put my bi-weekly stats on the first post I made. I would delete out what is in there now and just do the stats so people don't have so much to read through.

With the lotion, maybe I can just do it all except where the strap goes. Or use gauze to help grip. Also I read over your excel sheets that is good info. Can you make one that calculates PV by just adding length and girth?

[maxmak]

why do you use rags & are you supposed to keep the rags on all the time.

how is x4 extender better than other extenders available in the market. I plan to buy an extender within a week and I'm very nervous about this decision. Could you please tell me few things that would make this decisions easier. thanks

[treetop]

As to Penox, I think you can edit posts. I do all my stats by replying my original post. Check it out. Also, as far as PV, just look at the sheet and the formula. You can do it yourself. It only uses Erect Length, and Erect Girth. The formula is: "PV or Penis Volume =(EL*(EG^2))/(PI()*4)
EL is Erect Length, and EG is Erect Girth. You will find it on the July G column of the Measurements sheet.

As to maxmak, The X4 has the strap, not just the noose. Which is why I purchased it, plus they have a payment plan. Plus, if you get on the clinic trial, after 6 months (I can't personally verify this) you get $300.00. You just have to follow some rules.

I am happy with X4 so far, good communication, and they are good for sending spare parts.

As for rags, I don't use anything other then what came with the X4, and a couple of socks.
See my pics for illustrations.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/treetopx4lpics/

TT

[maxmak]

which is a better method of pulling your penis. strap or noose. Or, do they have different functions?

[treetop]

Well, I have tried both. Separately, and both at the same time.
But I only use the strap currently. And from what I hear, most people do not use the noose unless they have too. More pain and more possibility of damage I believe. But don’t quote me on that.
TT

[pfm]

I received the extender deluxe today. :) . I'm trying the combination of different bars and finding a starting comfort level. I tried a half hour with the 3 inch bar, which resulted in 6.5 inch and tension at second notch (1200?). I was still comfortable (higher threshhold for pain?) but don't want to rush into the stretching. Next I'm trying the 2 + .5 inch bars, which I measure at 6.25 - 6.5 and the tension at 2.75. (800?). Also the thumbscrews are at minimum adjust.
I measure from the top side and from tip of penis to the bottom of base of the extender.
I'm not using padding and I'm using the strap not the loop. Correct me if I'm being overly cautious, I believe I can use the stretcher with the 3 inch bar and at the second notch, but I think I should be on the conservative side and "start" with the 2.5 for the first week and monitor for any problems.
Any opinions are appreciated.
As a side note I'm also a pumper (15yrs on and off) and this is overall alot less hassle.

Another side note Treetop you said something about putting the whole package (c & b) through the hole in the base? Is that correct? Are you using the girth base? I have no idea how to do that using the regular base that comes with the deluxe set.

[treetop]

First, stay on the cautious side and go slow. X4Labs recommends the schedule below:
Recommended
Week Hrs Tention
2 2 900
3 3 1000
4 2 1000
5 3 1200
6 4 1200
7 4 1200
8+ 6 1200

As for tension, when not compressed the extender is at the first line, 600 grams if compressed. Second line about 1200 grams, and all the way to the third line 1800 grams. Mine differed some, as you will see if you read my posts. But I know that because I measured it with a postal scale.
As for the c&b, I am doing it, but sometime it is difficult so be careful. I am on the smaller side with the boys, so it’s easier. I now have the girth edition, which makes it easier. But I found that with higher tension, after some time they were popping through anyway. And if not, a lot of pressure from the base was on them.
As for the rest of it, go slow. It takes a few weeks for your member to build up to the tension. No point in injury which will set you way back.
TT

[pfm]

TY Treetop for your comments.
Well I'm glad I stayed with the 2.5 and the lowest setting, and stopped at 2.5 hrs the first day.
Today I can feel the effects of the stretching, not pain or soreness, but the "sensation" that a certain area was worked. I think if I had pressed ahead, it would be more then a sensation.
I'm stretching now, going into the second hour about 30mins left and I decided to break to inspect and massage for circulation. After checking I just got a visual reminder that I have a vein on my shaft that closely follows the rim of the glans. This is something I have to keep a close eye on since the strap lays across a large section of the vein (the strap and vein run the same horizontal path).

I question to those who have the girth base, is there a huge difference in the opening? I'm not girthy, but I don't see alot of room for growing girth wise in the regular base.

[cogirth]

I ordered the girth base and I feel that it was almost a waste of money because it is only bigger in one direction, the distance between the bars is the same as the regular base. However, I started using this thing with 6.25" girth at mid shaft -- but still, the girth base is more of an oval instead of a larger circular hole compared to the regular base. Also, it seems like that they make the regular and the girth base out of the same amount of plastic input, so it seems much thinner at the point of contact with the pubic bone, which can be a little uncomfortable.
I understand that the distance between the bars in the regular and girth base have to be the same otherwise the girth base would also require a girth strap assembly.

[treetop]

I have to agree. I emailed them about that. Also, it has a concave shape away from the body. So there is an effect of it flipping forward and backward, instead of staying at the angle I want it at.

There needs to be 1/4" to 1/2" in front and back, I would prefer 1/2", so support on the pubic bone. After an hour it begins to cut (not literally) into the pubic bone. I am using a sock for padding, but still have to limit sessions more with the girth base.
TT